Wednesday, July 22, 2009

Ohio HB 252 Requires Father's Consent for Abortion

Ohio Congressman John Adams has drafted legislation that would require a woman to get the permission of the man who impregnated her to abort the pregnancy. The bill is co-sponsored by 15 other men including the usual cadre of SW Ohio Republican idiots. While it gives the potential father veto rights, it does not impose any responsibility on these "men". I guess "conservatives" don't feel that rights carry responsibilities.
I have long thought the father should have such a right, but never without demanding that he pay the bills, provide health care, mental and physical, during and after the pregnancy, require he take the child after birth unconditionally and demand he pay for any lost wages the woman might incur. Since the paternity will have to be determined before the abortion can be done, demanding the father pay his share of that would be appropriate, too. Because it would be a state mandate, the government should provide the funds for paternity testing including tracking down recalcitrant fathers.
Pregnancy is a time sensitive issue and there seems to be no provision for a guy who does the impregnating to assume any responsibility if his mischievousness or procrastination in giving permission leads to the woman ultimately giving birth.
Not demanding any responsibility reflects poorly on the men promoting this legislation.
Without all these provisions it's just a bunch of guys saying, bitch, your cunt is mine - make me some babies.

5 comments:

Mark Miller said...

Sometimes you make a helluva lot of sense Quim.

Most of your list is already covered by CSEA (Child Support Enforcement Agency) once a new mother files a claim following birth. CSEA rounds up the putative father, administers and pays for paternity DNA testing, collects and disburses payments. Custody is decided by the parents, or decreed by family court if disputed.

But pregnancy and birthing expenses are usually on her, and she has to sue him for his half later. Inexcusable for this bill not to cover that gap between conception and birth. If he's exercising a veto, there's no reason he shouldn't pay the difference for the much more expensive in utero DNA test too.

Got a petition I can sign?

The Pagan Temple said...

If abortion is going to be legal, then I don't think the father should get a veto, period. If they are married, that's a different story, but even then, I would have a hard time with it. The woman is the one carrying the child. Does this bill have provisions to take into account individual circumstances, such as hardships? If the woman's health or life is at risk, does the man still get a vote?

And besides, it doesn't sound equitable. How could it be? It sounds to me like the woman gets no say in the matter in reality? Can they turn to a tie-breaker? Who would that be?

This is just stupid, and borderline criminal vote-buying. This bill ain't going anywhere, its just a very stupid and transparent attempt to get votes from religious conservatives.

Quim said...

Mark - I always make sense. Get used to it.
PT - yeah, there are provisions for health, rape & incest. You have to prove it, tho & that takes time and puts the burden of proof on the pregnant woman & like I said, pregnancy is time sensitive.
I think it is just a publicity stunt, too. Still, if I were the daughter or wife of one of these cretins, I think I'd be tempted to poison their evening warmed milk. It shows an extreme contempt and hatred of women.

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